Nacey Report post Posted October 17, 2016 Here's another crazy convertible Android thing for Tom's consideration: http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/17/13289506/lenovo-yoga-book-review Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Largi Report post Posted October 18, 2016 https://www.wired.com/2016/10/review-google-pixel/?mbid=social_twitter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 19, 2016 Mine just shipped . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrrh Report post Posted October 21, 2016 Go on then, tell us how awesome the new Pixel is so I end up buying one for Christmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Largi Report post Posted October 21, 2016 Go on then, tell us how awesome the new Pixel is so I end up buying one for Christmas. This Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 21, 2016 Sorry too busy gently licking the 3.5mm headphone jack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Okay so more seriously, though to be honest I don't have much to say that wasn't already covered in the reviews. I have a black 32GB XL. It's fantastically well built and I personally quite like the design though some people have called it boring. The Screen is gorgeous but that's nothing new coming from a 6P. The white balance is a little colder than on the 6P and, as with that device, colours are quite saturated (not Samsung levels but way more than Apple) out of the box but the sRGB toggle makes it more natural if you dislike it. Performance is excellent, app switching is consistently smooth and fast and it seems to handle having a dozen different apps open just fine without throwing stuff out of memory. Subjectively the reception seems better than on the 6P as I've been getting a consistent signal at work where it's usually patchy due to the building (big old factory converted to offices) but this may just be how it displays or coincidence. The fingerprint scanner is faster than the 6P, it unlocks about twice as fast in a quick side-by-side test I just did. Camera is insanely fast to load, shutter is instant even with HDR+ on and you can just mash the shutter button and it keeps taking photos. Going back the 6P camera is a chore once you've used this. Tap app, wait for app to load. Tap shutter, wait for photo to take. Tap shutter, nope, wait before you can take another. It's one of those things you don't really appreciate until you use it though. Battery life seems good so far but really too early to say and unfair to compare it to a device that has been used for a year. But first impressions are that it's a measurable (but not huge) amount better than the 6P when it was new. Worth £720 (or £600 for the regular)? Well, is an iPhone worth that? If it isn't then it's not really possible to justify this. I'm a bit torn on it to be honest. I bought it because of my job and because I have the spare cash but despite how nice it is in basically every way I don't think I can really recommend it for the price when I've said for years that iPhones are too expensive. And you're losing waterproofing (though a video on Youtube shows it surviving 30mins in a bowl just fine so who knows) and the ability to walk into an Apple store for aftersales. Performance is excellent but still technically inferior to the iPhone thanks to Apple designing their own silicon. What do you gain? Well, you might consider Android a bonus, I guess, but that's really quite subjective and others will definitely prefer iOS. A headphone jack? I don't even consider that a good thing. The answer is really nothing. So this is worse value than an iPhone and I don't consider the iPhone to be a great value proposition. But that still makes this a much better option than every other iPhone-priced phone that isn't an iPhone so if you're attached to Android and want a flagship then this is far and away the best option. And you'll like it, you'll like it a lot. Just maybe not quite a £720 lot when the 6P can be picked up for half of that. More than anything this is a great beacon of things to come because owning this phone makes me pretty excited for next year's. Get a Google custom SoC in here and add waterproofing and then we have a real iPhone competitor on our hands. Anyway bring on the Pixel watches (expected early next year), cannot wait to replace this old 360! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagrosh Report post Posted October 22, 2016 Yeah. Quick use tells me the same. If you're happy to pay the price then both iPhone & Pixel are fantastic phones. Just depends on what you can afford. I mean, I still think the galaxy s4 mini was the best Android phone in a long time, in terms of what you got for value for money. Using both iOS & Android every day I still find myself turning to the iPhone over Android though honestly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrrh Report post Posted October 24, 2016 I couldn't justify a Pixel, an iPhone or other similar priced Android flagships. Ended up tossing between OnePlus 3 and Nexus 6P; went with the 6P in the end. In hindsight, picking up the 5X while their stocks were being cleared a few months ago would have been a good move. Instead I got blinded by the "new Nexus" hype. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokajin Report post Posted October 30, 2016 I'm thinking of getting a new smart phone and am willing to spend ~150 on it depending on the price/performance optimal point. I have a 2 year old moto g which did the job as my first smart phone but doesnt have a sd card slot and is getting full just from apps slowly getting bigger (I dont even have many). I dont use games (but guess I might if I had a nice phone that i thought might run them) and basically just use facebook/whatsapp/internet/camera/normal phone stuff. Does anyone have any ideas/recommendations as to what I should get? Or should I be waiting for some big event/announcement etc that might make things cheaper suddenly etc? Also probably a dumb question but how do I get all the stuff from my current phone onto the new one? with basic phones it was easy as you just copied contacts to the sim card but now there are countless things that may or not be phone side rather than sim side. I dont have it linked to a "google" account that I use (am sure it insisted i have one) but is that what I need to/should do to simplify it? Thanks in advance! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 30, 2016 16GB Nexus 5X is £200 from Argos. All other cheap phones are garbage. Motorola is now a shitheap since Lenovo bought them and you won't even get security patches nevermind OS updates. It wouldn't surprise me to see the brand disappear altogether within a couple of years as Lenovo already basically fired everyone they possibly could there. If that's really too much, I guess I'd look at, in no particular order: WileyFox Swift - technically last year's model but the new ones use garbage MediaTek processors. Updates will be slow and the future of CyanogenMod (the OS) is a bit uncertain. But was well reviewed at the time. Moto G4 Play / Moto G3 - see notes about Motorola above but I guess they're alright as cheap devices. How do you even install apps without a Google account? Yes, you should be logged into a Google account on an Android phone. Not all apps sync data via the provided Google APIs but given the things you describe actually using your phone for you shouldn't lose anything as long as contacts are saved to the Google account and not something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myrrh Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Note that the 5X is not in stock anywhere from Argos. I tried to get hold of one before going for the 6P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim Report post Posted October 30, 2016 At that price point is it worth considering a Nokia Windows Phone? I don't know much about them but had heard they were actually very good low end handsets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 30, 2016 Windows Phone has no apps. If you don't care about that then it's a nice OS. But then why are you even buying a smartphone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dangphat Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Amazon has the 32gb 5X at 258GBP which isnt bad value but still above your price point. On a related note, I moved from the Moto G version 3 to the nexus 5x earlier this year on Todd's advice and it has been brilliant. If only I could repay the favor and give Todd some good advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 31, 2016 If only I could repay the favor and give Todd some good advice.Alas there is literally nothing you could help me with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Rugby Technique? Wisdom for raising children from experience? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Oh I'll pop round for some cooking lessons too. But can't think of anything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dangphat Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Rocket League? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nacey Report post Posted October 31, 2016 You'd have to get Sarah in as a guest lecturer on how to make the best sound affects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fyria Report post Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) I have no idea what you mean. Edited October 31, 2016 by Fyria Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fyria Report post Posted October 31, 2016 I miss group Rocket League, people I play with should play it more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dangphat Report post Posted October 31, 2016 I'm in Doha a lot (including right now) so when I am home I cannot justify taking more time away from my family to play computer games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fyria Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Yeah, that's fair enough. Anyway, this is a bit of a tangent from the topic at hand. Pixel is shiiiiny. Can't justify one though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokajin Report post Posted October 31, 2016 Cool, thanks all. Will have a think. Seems like there is a massive jump from cheap/crap ~130 to reasonable ~250 with nothing much between. The wileyfox seems ok but then amazon has loads of complaints of reliability issues but i may risk it since its got a 2 year warranty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
