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  2. Myrrh

    Guild Thursdays

    If I'm around tomorrow, I can try and solo heal or boost Dave's paladin/Simon's priest.
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  4. Welsper

    Guild Thursdays

    And hey, in theory, we could even get some 395 titanforges from LFR with some luck!
  5. Kryton

    Theorycrafting Everything

    @Fyria If you're still thinking about spec changes I would start by swapping out Ebonbolt for Frigid Winds before doing anything with GS. EB and FW sim out as almost identical DPS and you may find the increased BF procs easier for setting up GS than hoping EB is off cooldown at the right time. It also removes one of your two long stand still and cast spells so may help on movement fights or dodging stuff in general.
  6. Yesterday
  7. Kryton

    Guild Thursdays

    Just a suggestion for this week. You could brave 3 LFR bosses to get another stack of origination array
  8. Tim

    Guild Thursdays

    Another healer! Everyone boost Simon
  9. Todkuh

    Guild Thursdays

    I'd like to continue with the normal runs, I think allowing people to gear up who haven't managed to do so because of.... y'know.... <<insert everything fucking wrong with azerite gear here>>, should be a priority. I mean, I don't exactly know where we all are with gear atm, so this might be moot, I'd just hate to step into the next raid and not be as well off as we could be as a whole because we decided to spend Thursdays wiping on the same damn shit be that achievements or heroic and then people miss out on specific slot loot they could have gotten if we were just doing full clears. Also, I have a holy priest I'd like to gear up and generally get some raid healing practise in with, so doing normal runs helps with alts/options for later raids. I'd say do both achi runs and normal ones on different nights, but it looks like we're going to start running into availability problems anyway, so yeah. ✌️
  10. Nacey

    BfA Mythics

    Cool, thanks. I do recognise that some of you have offered and run keys before and I've absolutely done runs with everyone who was in your group yesterday at various times (except possibly Dave but that's really because of healer overlap). A bit of communication would go a long way basically. Sometimes it's not only you five who can only play on one evening so there might be a more efficient way to organise things to help those people (and, as you've said, some of you can and do play on other evenings, so it's not like there is zero flexibility there. If there is also the issue that "I don't want to play in the shit group" (not a quote, not attributed to anyone) then that's obviously a separate issue and we should try to figure out why there is a difference between the two. Which is what Mark was getting at, and I'll reply to that properly when I can.
  11. Sharp

    BfA Mythics

    That was aimed at the comments last night that we were basically stealing people and how other groups have to "fumble things together because of it". It irritated me and I know it did others too. Fair, and I apologise if its been taken that way since its not intended. As I think someone already said, both myself and Mark have used our high keys for people before to make sure people get stuff done. People do do this when we can. Two things: 1) I was actually going to delete the llama this morning, you just got there first. The whole thing last night just annoyed me since it seemed pointless and I made a silly post before retiring. 2) I did post in the thread the other day saying I wasn't around this weekend (Tom and Maz visiting). I then said in /g last night when asked that I wasn't available (since I was half WoWing half doing meeting prep for today). I have two days I've committed to, which is Monday and Thursday. Outwith that its harder for me to commit due to work and other social things so I tend not to unless I know for definite either way (like my post the other day). Also I don't like to dps and its only fair for Welsper to tank when he's on.
  12. Dave

    BfA Mythics

    Tbh communication is something that could be done better. Currently we have a standing pushing run from about 20:30 to 22:30 on Mondays so it's safe to assume we are unavailable then. As I've mentioned briefly previously, I'm very busy completing my MSc while continuing to work full time, this completes at the end of the month. At this stage, I'll have much more free time and much more energy to do things, so I'll be happy to do more mythics, I may even get to enjoy some pewpew. I'm also happy for people to contact me outside game to see if I'm free to come on. Discord notifications don't come through on my phone but I have the vast majority of you on FB. I can't promise I'll always be available but I'll try my best to help out where possible.
  13. Brynneth

    BfA Mythics

    Part of my problem last night was running two instances I've only done on base Mythic 2 months and 60 ilvls ago. Waycrest, which I DO know well, got easily 2-keyed with 1(?) Death. Familiarity is a big part of the ability to finish a dungeon in time. Similarly, Temple 8 had a load of us who'd never done it on a high level and had to work out boss strats which would work for our group as we went. Repeated wipes on the 3rd boss was what knackered the timer for us. I think it's just getting more experience with running Mythics for some of us, and I agree it would be helpful if when asking on both Discord and forums if people want to do a run to get a reply of "no there is a group arranged at this time with these people who are not otherwise free" rather than a story silence as we've been otherwise getting. I tried to form a group the other week with Lei and Simon and nobody would reply that they were free/busy even in guildchat, it felt like I was being ghosted. I've ended up running PUGs a few weeks just to keep a key ticking over / get some loot.
  14. Nacey

    BfA Mythics

    There is a really good and valid discussion about group compositions and class mechanics which I will reply to as well but I don't have time to get into that right now. I will come back to that though. I don't have logs but I can maybe get some on future runs.
  15. Nacey

    BfA Mythics

    This is true and my only goal was to make people think about the situation, not tell anyone what to do. Everyone can decide what they think is reasonable. But the main reason I got annoyed is you, so let's cover that. The person "throwing salt" is you. After pretty much every single run we do you immediately ask in guild chat what we did and then tell us that we are bad and that you did a better thing. This is generally presented so as to be directed at Welsper but obviously the success of a run is not down to one person so when you do this you're saying it to everyone. Reading this every single time gets really tedious. The main point, which Sarah has also mentioned, was just that it would be courteous if someone could post when five people have agreed to do a thing days in advance and you know exactly when it's happening as it makes it a lot easier for remaining people to figure out when we might be able to find random people to fill a spot to get runs done. I also think it would be nice if people were willing to swap around to make sure everyone gets runs done for the week. If you can only play one night then obviously you get priority for that night. This is what we did for the whole of the last expansion with the people that posted in the thread and/or showed up when we doing runs. I did not ever once for the entire expansion tell someone their gear was not good enough or they didn't know the dungeons well enough. Some weeks we simply did lower numbers. But we had fun and we helped everyone get better geard. I can't and won't try to force anyone to do that, it's just a bit of a shame if we lost that when there's actually a pretty high activity level right now. Your reaction to the whole thing, which other people mostly won't realise because I deleted it, was to immediately come here and troll the same thread that you couldn't be bothered to post in beforehand. Compare that to Mark's post. Which one of these do you think makes people feel better and helps the situation? So maybe just stop and think sometimes? We are all people with lives and other things going on and I play WoW to have fun.
  16. Fyria

    Theorycrafting Everything

    Yeah, I seem to have a million 370 helms, but not really a lot of duplicates for other things, I'll still tend to use crit>haste>master>versa for most things, but have been a bit unlucky with drops sometimes, both of my crafted pieces are high versa, and I don't have the money to keep spending on proccing Expulsoms to re-roll those, so waiting on natural replacements, my weapon and offhand combo are quite high versa, in fact a lot of my gear has versa on it, but was still an upgrade over 20 ilvls. My shoulder has my Archive on it and the only piece I have, I don't know whether a non-Archive 355 is better or not (I should sim it sometime) because the base effect is still pretty good but maybe I should check what else I have again, although this would probably get immediately replaced for M+ (but kept for raids) if I get a 370 in that slot as I imagine that would be more effective outside of raid times. I don't have any other raid trait pieces, just the one 355 piece, so I don't really have any swapping it around decisions to make.
  17. Fyria

    Theorycrafting Everything

    Yeah, tbh, I might have gone up a level as well when I picked up the Sarah-forged 375 back in the 6 and a 370 ring in the 8. Glacial Spike is probably less RNG I guess? But still a little RNG as Ebonbolt isn't always off cooldown, so you're sometimes waiting on a Flurry proc before you can shoot the GS which can vary in time a bit, but means you aren't getting a GS off every 5 Frostbolt casts really. I've sometimes just used GS anyway if the mob is close to death as that will do more damage than trying to fish for an insta Flurry for a while with Frostbolts and only really get that damage in which is slower. This is one of the reasons my damage can vary a bit, if I get procs for the GS naturally between EB cooldowns I can whack out much more than if I'm spending time waiting on procs. I forget that you have the insta Blizzard thing in that build, so yeah, that makes sense, because I have to full duration cast it in my spec I tend to keep it for bigger packs, also because Orb can proc lots of yay Ice Lazor mash times, I tend charge up the Blizzard first so I don't lose procs on those (since the cap at two), which means a few times my Orb usage will happen a couple of seconds into the fight, unless I've managed to pre-cast the Blizzard. Pre-casting the Blizzard varies a bit because I don't always know where Welsper will pull to, so that can delay my decision or have to start me recasting that sometimes, but most of the time I have it somewhere sensible. xD
  18. Fyria

    Guild Thursdays

    I don't know if it's worth knowing or not at this point, but there's a good chance we won't make the one after (we're at a conference, but the conference is in London, but we may not want to skip out some of the Thursday stuff, hence the good chance we won't make it) and the weekend after that is a convention, which we're leaving for on the Thursday/have hotel booked, so will definitely not be making. Should be around after that though, but that's potentially three weeks of pugging a healer for later content), after that we should be around for Thursdays again, it's just a busy upcoming month.
  19. Kryton

    Theorycrafting Everything

    I use Blizzard on smaller packs because of our difference in builds. It's instant cast for me with Orb up which is when you'll see it (other than pre-casts). It isn't a huge dps gain but it's an easy group slow and helps tick down my Orb cooldown slightly so isn't a bad use of a GCD. I wish I could blame the difference on gear but I'm 366 equipped and my neck is 4 ilvls higher than yours (might only be 2 now but was 4) so I think our gear is comparable. The one thing about running the passive talents is that I have no way to force a proc (ie Ebonbolt or Glacial Spike) so I'm more at the mercy of RNG than your build. All I do with gear switching is that I have a single target set and a multi-target set. The actual difference is currently a belt with differing secondaries and that's it. I do run sims with and without reorigination array but currently I only have one Uldir azerite piece and nothing competing for that slot so the builds are the same in that regard. If I can get a 370 outside the raid it's likely that will be substituted in for M+.
  20. Fyria

    Theorycrafting Everything

    Yeah, I guess it might depend on the fight and healing a bit, because you are right, there's the odd time when you might get hit by something small mid-GS and have to decide whether or not to take the hit or lose the dps from moving and trying again, I have a slight issue with that sometimes where I'm sometimes mashing Flurry to go off as soon as GS hits, and if I'm not careful when I break a GS shot to move out of damage, I sometimes still hit that and lose the follow up, which is annoying if I've used Ebonbolt to generate it, it's the one thing I'm working on trying not to accidentally do as much, and I am doing it less, but when I frequently chain GS into Flurry proc into Ice Lance, and the later are instants, I'm usually trying to chain the split second global CDs are off. Blizzard I tend to try and use on any packs with 3+ mobs, which I thought was the usefulness cut off unless you can pre-cast it, I've noticed you using it on smaller packs, which might just be the same as me, and you're doing it if you can get it on a pre-cast, otherwise I'm not sure whether I should be using it for packs of two more or not. Orb tries to get used on CD, but if we're right before a boss or something on Tyrannical, I'll tend to save it for that, even if we have a big pull of mobs right beforehand, but maybe I should just be using it on that. I'll keep with my build for now then and try and iron these things out a bit more to increase my dps a bit more, but realistically, the reason I do more dps in M+ than you is probably more a matter of gear than build, so I wasn't comparing out builds based on direct dps output from M+ because I would say that gear overshadows it. The other thing I wanted to ask about was following a comment you made at one point about switching gear for M+, what do you switch around in favour of? I pretty much have one set of gear that gets used for raids and dungeons and no real variety on that. I do keep hold of other Azerite pieces I pick up with the same iLvl though, and obviously there are some things that are slightly better weighted towards AoE and single target, but M+ tends to be more of a mixture of the two (unless you prioritise based on T vs F weeks). Edit: I say that, but you aren't actually that far behind me in gear, now I've checked, armoury suggests you're 365 equipped whereas I'm only 367 equipped, it make a difference but maybe not as large a difference as I'm accounting for, so it could be the case that GS is accounting towards some of the dps difference.
  21. Kryton

    Guild Thursdays

    I'm now also out on Thursday.
  22. Kryton

    Theorycrafting Everything

    Haha. I had a suspicion you'd missed it from the odd thing happening in raids but I'd always forget to say anything. I literally hit it immediately after IB fades as a reflex so the second IB is an option in case it is needed. It's virtually impossible to use it to reset anything that would actually give a DPS gain so there's no loss from doing that.
  23. Dave

    Guild Thursdays

    This Thursday definitely strikes me as challenging to run a raid, any suggestions for alternate activities?
  24. Kryton

    Theorycrafting Everything

    I run the most passive frost mage build you can get so no I don't run Glacial Spike or Ebonbolt. It's hard to gauge our relative position in raids as I'm usually keeping half an eye on something else to RL so I'm not at 100% dmg focus but in M+ you are quite consistently ahead of me on dps. Ofc there are pulls I have orb up and you don't but generally I think you're build is slightly more optimal for bosses than mine. That said, it is more static and harder to play (more buttons) so I think it could be causing you to get hit by things I can dodge. I'm thinking of switching mine up to add another button and see how my dps goes but I think I'll end up taking more damage as a result so I'm not convinced it is a net gain.
  25. Fyria

    Theorycrafting Everything

    I'll add the Cold Snap response in here too, since if we're talking specific spec/class stuff, easier to keep it out of general M+ figuring out things thread that applies to everyone. Okay, what, how did I totally miss Cold Snap, it's not on my bars as I thought it was a specced thing I didn't spec for over something else. I rarely have to double ice block in a fight, so it's been mostly irrelevant, but for the few times I need to, yup, on my bars now, derp.
  26. Kryton

    BfA Mythics

    So I can't comment on your 8 last night but I can try to look back at the two FH7 runs and compare. When I went with you we definitely lost time due to the first boss trash and the dog. There is no question about that and it isn't anyone's fault. The only thing I can suggest is to bring invis pots for the trash skip at the start. The dog is not too bad as you need to take some pulls for percentage anyway. It's still not ideal as you'd rather take pulls during the arena RP (something we overdid in our group and then lost time chasing the pig). The other lost time was the second boss having to be reset twice which is why I was asking Todd about moving and healing as disc on that fight as it felt like he was struggling. The resets probably costs us 4/5 minutes plus the deaths which is a lot in a 30 minute dungeon. When I ran it with Sharp we were actually quite lucky that the barrel only happened 3 times and all 3 were on me so the first 2 could be ignored. That reminds me, Sarah, do you use Cold Snap? On something like that boss you should be using it straight after ice blocking a barrel so that if ti targets you again you'll be able to IB a second time (I know there is a 30 second window where that doesn't work but he doesn't use it that often). I know we had lost the timer at the end so we were over on trash and took the last pull for safety but when I ran with Sharp we took that pull and managed to get the percentage with only 1 excess mob (ended on about 101.4%). We took some non-elites round the arena and all the pulls on the final platform for that. As the run with you was already over-time at that point I don't think the trash was such an issue. I have no data from the runs but I have to assume the bosses took longer too. It isn't like we were stood around and Welsper was chain pulling so stuff must have died slower. I don't really have a solution on that one though.
  27. Myrrh

    BfA Mythics

    The main issue I see is that while raid nights attracts 15+ people, there's only 9 that actively do M+. Do the others not read the forums, and if so message them directly to sort something regular out? I recommend Method Dungeon Tools, so you can plan and save routes for different affixes/comps, then make small optimisations over runs. I don't think comp or utility is the problem. You hardly ever CC before infested at 10 anyway, and if you do you have both poly and shackle that cover everything. Comps are not the reason for not doing 6 7 8 keys in time. The only real difference is rogue and shroud skips, but it's not absolutely essential. Neither group can death skip unless hunter pets can CR? 2 melee vs 1 melee is a toss up. You win some dungeons with more stuns and interrupts, or lose some dungeons that are less melee friendly. A few ideas from me: Use flasks and food. Lasts for 2-3 dungeons or more if you're an alchemist, and is very helpful for pushing. Bigger pulls when the frost mage and warrior(s) have CDs up during suitable weeks. Burst AOE should be insane. Learn what to interrupt and stun, especially when making double or triple pulls. General damage output and boss mechanics improvements. Most of this can be improved with more runs.
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